New download failures... this time on Calc15Tuples.

Looks like it started September 8 2025 -- 8 TO 9 DAYS AGO. I currently have around 120 download failures.

Example:
Workunit 4664196
name: Oymtup15_1757288946
application: Calc15Tuples
created: 7 Sep 2025, 23:49:06 UTC

5170035	99	12 Sep 2025, 5:13:30 UTC	13 Sep 2025, 5:15:42 UTC	Error while downloading	0.00	0.00	---	Calc15Tuples v1.05
windows_x86_64
5274778	121	17 Sep 2025, 1:16:30 UTC	17 Sep 2025, 1:18:53 UTC	Error while downloading	0.00	0.00	---	Calc15Tuples v1.05
windows_x86_64

Stderr output

<core_client_version>8.2.4</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
WU download error: couldn't get input files:
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>wu_33310270_15_get_sym_tuples.txt</file_name>
<error_code>-224 (permanent HTTP error)</error_code>
<error_message>permanent HTTP error</error_message>
</file_xfer_error>
</message>
]]>

STILL SEEING DOWNLOAD ERRORS FOR Calc15Tuples!
Workunit 4846906
Name Oymtup15_1758059527
created 16 Sep 2025, 21:52:07 UTC

Stderr output
<core_client_version>7.16.20</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
WU download error: couldn't get input files:
<file_xfer_error>
  <file_name>wu_33423807_15_get_sym_tuples.txt</file_name>
  <error_code>-224 (permanent HTTP error)</error_code>
  <error_message>permanent HTTP error</error_message>
</file_xfer_error>
</message>
]]>

Looks like p0roject lost input files for Calculate Tuples and Calc15Tuples tasks. It tried to download https://boinc.mak.termit.me/odlk2025/download/140/wu_92644_get_sym_tuples.txt and got error 404.

I'm getting these download failures too. Any fix coming soon?

In reply to vaughan's message of 7 Oct 2025:

I'm getting these download failures too. Any fix coming soon?

Loading errors are a technical issue.
They're related to data transfer, traffic, and the operation of the receiving computer.
The administrator can't check all the crunchers' computers and determine the cause of the loading failure on those computers.

I have one computer running in my project with remote control.
I don't see anything happening there at all.
The computer is working reliably.
I don't know if loading failures occur there.
If they do, they don't affect the computer's operation in any way.
I see that the computer is performing calculations and receiving credits.

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The TBEG BOINC project maintains the database
https://boinc.tbrada.eu/spt/explore.php

I have one computer running in my project with remote control.
I don't see anything happening there at all.
The computer is working reliably.

This is not true. Your computer has over 7000 failed tasks due to permanent HTTP error.
https://boinc.mak.termit.me/odlk2025/results.php?hostid=40

They're related to data transfer, traffic, and the operation of the receiving computer.

This is not true also. If the same error happens for everyone this is 100% server issue.
And blaming "receiveng computer" in this situation is the silliest excuse possible.

This is not true. Your computer has over 7000 failed tasks due to permanent HTTP error.
https://boinc.mak.termit.me/odlk2025/results.php?hostid=40

I wanted to say that I am not involved in monitoring (observation).
This is a translation error.

This is not true also. If the same error happens for everyone this is 100% server issue.
And blaming "receiveng computer" in this situation is the silliest excuse possible.

Can you suggest us a better server?

And blaming "receiveng computer" in this situation is the silliest excuse possible.

Unfortunately, I can't replace the working server with another one.
I can't fix the working server either.
I don't know if it's even possible.
I think if it were possible, the administrator would have done it.

If you know how to fix the server to eliminate the "loading error," tell the administrator.

Simply repeating for the 101st time that a "loading error" is happening is pointless.

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The TBEG BOINC project maintains the database
https://boinc.tbrada.eu/spt/explore.php

OK so if you are calling me a liar or blaming my multiple computers for your project having difficulties downloading work from your project server then I quit.

Can you suggest us a better server?

The problem isn't the server but the database. There seems to be some "old uncompleted" work still in the database that the server is attempting to send to members. However, there seems to a problem with either missing files or corrupted files on the server associated with that work. The admin needs to delete that work from the database so the server will stop trying to send that work to members or, if that is too technical. then stop the whole application.

In reply to vaughan's message of 8 Oct 2025:

OK so if you are calling me a liar or blaming my multiple computers for your project having difficulties downloading work from your project server then I quit.

Someone also says that I am a liar

This is not true.

This is not true also.

However, I'm not leaving!

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The TBEG BOINC project maintains the database
https://boinc.tbrada.eu/spt/explore.php

In reply to entity's message of 8 Oct 2025:

Can you suggest us a better server?

The problem isn't the server but the database. There seems to be some "old uncompleted" work still in the database that the server is attempting to send to members. However, there seems to a problem with either missing files or corrupted files on the server associated with that work. The admin needs to delete that work from the database so the server will stop trying to send that work to members or, if that is too technical. then stop the whole application.

I hope termit reads your message.

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The TBEG BOINC project maintains the database
https://boinc.tbrada.eu/spt/explore.php

Natalia Makarova wrote:

. . .
I hope termit reads your message.

And since this is your pet project and your title is "Project scientist" why can't you contact/message/email etc 'termit' to let him know about the problem that has been going on for WAY TOO MANY MONTHS?

These continued download failures make this look like it's run by a bunch of grade school children who probably would have fixed the problem in a matter of days.

I can see why your project will never get accepted by the BOINC DEVELOPERS for inclusion on the official list of projects.

In reply to Dr Who Fan's message of 10 Oct 2025:

Natalia Makarova wrote:

. . .
I hope termit reads your message.

And since this is your pet project and your title is "Project scientist" why can't you contact/message/email etc 'termit' to let him know about the problem that has been going on for WAY TOO MANY MONTHS?

These continued download failures make this look like it's run by a bunch of grade school children who probably would have fixed the problem in a matter of days.

I can see why your project will never get accepted by the BOINC DEVELOPERS for inclusion on the official list of projects.

No need to write in big print; I'm not blind.

I answered above that I can't fix this problem because I don't manage the server and the database.

Is that unclear?

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The TBEG BOINC project maintains the database
https://boinc.tbrada.eu/spt/explore.php